Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Two, one.
Welcome back to another show, philosophy talk show, where we really explore minds of the people that come into this show. They get to tell their story. You know, it's about introspection. You know, what you thinking? How you feeling about whatever.
I have another special. Every guest that come on here gonna be special, but gonna be special for a different reason. And this guy here is special to me because he changed my life. And I know I probably said this. Anybody that's probably watching this probably heard the story of how he changed my life.
But it all started in little league football when he caught my attention being as great as he was. So Mister Dominique Henry in the building, everybody, we got a special, special person. He probably the most decorated athlete in Wilson high school history, for sure. I'm talking about from academics to sports, to bro, it all. Like, I feel like you probably won probably every award.
[00:01:09] Speaker B: I'm up there, though. You like that real, though? That's something.
I try to be humble about everything.
But as far as being a true Wilsonian, like, I'm up there in the top five in the history. Like, we can speak on that and just a why and how and just everything from how it all came to be.
[00:01:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. We definitely. We gotta get there, man. But first off, man, like, you have a unique story, which we all do, but you have a unique story, man. So where do you feel like your story starts to allow you to become the person and the man that you are and experience the things that you've experienced in your lifetime? Like, where does your story start?
[00:02:00] Speaker B: It start from the beginning. All right. Like, I seen something about Kyrie the other day. Number eleven. I wish I would have showed you that before we got started. Cause I seen something with Jordan. And the number 23. Like, that was similar to it, but, like. All right, like, when I look back on my life and when it all started, it really started from the day I was born. Like, it was. I'm here for a reason. And I say this because. All right, so, like, my grandfather on my daddy's side, like, the patriarch on my daddy's side, Philip Windham. That's my dad's dad. He was born on July 4 back, you know, back in the day. And then my mom. Mama. My mama's mama, Thomas Henry, his birthday is July 4.
July 4, like the same day. So they. Children, you know, saying, met each other in high school. Like, dad, their parents got the same birthday, right? You know, and then they conceived the child. And my birthday, July 4, same day as both their father's birthday. So, like, that right there to me is like, I'm like, I look at that as a sign if that was to happen to me or to somebody nowadays. Like, okay, that purpose right there. Yeah, so, like, just from right there and, yeah, so, I mean, I can go on and on just about my life. Like, I had to. My life been amazing, yo. Like, I had an amazing childhood, and then, like, the trials and tribulation that I went through in my adult life, it was all purposeful and meaningful, and it, like, brought me the peace and the grace that I have now. So, like, my life has been like, I'm in heaven, you know? Like, I realized that word.
[00:03:58] Speaker A: Word. That's what's up, man. Okay, so, okay, so you have. When I first noticed you, we was playing lily ball. Lily football. I didn't play basketball, but I recognize you on the field as somebody that had to be probably about seven or eight or something like that when I first recognized you and it was like you couldn't be touched or something. It was like you had this thing that I was like, like a superhero on the football field or something like that.
[00:04:30] Speaker B: How you felt, bro? For real, though, bro.
[00:04:33] Speaker A: Think about it, bro. Think about it, bro.
[00:04:35] Speaker B: You're right. I cut you off. No, that's an honor to hear that from you, though, bro.
[00:04:40] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, for sure, bro.
[00:04:41] Speaker B: He was there. Like we.
[00:04:43] Speaker A: Yes, bro.
[00:04:44] Speaker B: Like, I'm gonna let you finish.
[00:04:45] Speaker A: Nah, go ahead.
[00:04:46] Speaker B: Same with you, bro.
I swear, when I first saw you, you caught my attention immediately after practices.
But go ahead and finish, though.
[00:04:56] Speaker A: Yeah, bro. Like, so I seen you. It was you and Dontrell, bro.
Dontrell just couldnt. He just, if he touched the ball, it was like he was gone, but you was more like, it was more like art or something like that. When I used to watch you play and you couldnt be stopped, and it motivated me, for real, just to try to be that great at a young age, even though. Cause everybody wanna be good, you know what im saying? But to watch somebody that you like, bro, like, how is he doing, what he doing and why can't nobody touch him? Like you said, like, why your, you was like, you play quarterback and your uniform still used to be clean on rainy days. Like, nobody could touch you, bro.
[00:05:39] Speaker B: Like, that was a real thing right there. Like, I used to go to whole games without getting tapped. Come on, brother. Back, though.
[00:05:46] Speaker A: Come on.
[00:05:46] Speaker B: That made it a little easier. I wasn't playing running back and stuff like that, but, you know, I playing quarterback and when I used to run, I used to score. If I didn't score, I just easily run out of bounds. But I was way mature for my age. Like, growing up. Like, I used to make it look easy, too easy.
[00:06:07] Speaker A: You made it look so easy that it made me want to figure out how were you doing it, you know what I'm saying?
But then later in life, I learned that your pops played in the NFL. So that's something that I want to chop it up with you. Like, what's that experience, like? Cause, like, having a pops that play in the league, and you got to experience that for a little while. Like, what was that? What was that experience, like for you as a young man?
[00:06:36] Speaker B: It was great. It was great. Yo, like, my pops playing in the league is one of the biggest influences on my life.
My pops playing in the league. See, my life been different. So, like, the first cassette tapes that I really remember watching was, like, my dad's film.
So that was, like, the first stuff I started watching, like, film, like, preseason games when my dad was in the game, because he played corner, but he was, like, second team. He played special teams and stuff, but preseason, that's when they get a lot of snaps. So that what I was watching when I was, like, four, five, six, you know, and super bowls and stuff like that. So that what I was watching when I was at home.
And then during the summers, I would go spend summers with my dad, so I would get the witness, like, oh, I don't even think they had Ota's back then or whatever, like. But I just see, like, training camp and the beginning of it, you know, I'm saying. And that's. That's what I saw growing up.
[00:08:01] Speaker A: So you.
[00:08:02] Speaker B: I was catching passes and running through the bags, and they was being friendly to me, and that was my childhood. Like, if this was to be nowadays where people could record stuff and stuff like that, like that, it would be lit. Like, I would have went viral.
I was out there with them, catching.
[00:08:22] Speaker A: The ball with the Dallas team.
[00:08:24] Speaker B: Yeah, they used to be impressed. Like, you know, I catch their ball. I was, like, five and six and stuff like that.
And so, like, that's what's kind of, like, what separated me from a lot of my peers. I was around greatness.
[00:08:41] Speaker A: Right.
[00:08:41] Speaker B: You know, they was winning Super Bowls at that time.
That was every. It was a normal thing for me. I ain't have realized how special my childhood was, you know?
[00:08:53] Speaker A: And I think that usually be the challenge, though, bro, because, like, you can.
Your point of view is you, so it's normal to you. So it's hard for you to disconnect what's going on in your life from yourself and. Cause I can agree with that, you know, like, it was a normal thing.
[00:09:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:11] Speaker A: You know, and it translated to what we saw. And it's been. It was greatness, bro. Like, I'm telling you. But the best thing about greatness like that is it on die. Cause I feel like something like that is an energy, bro. Like, I've been being able to do the things that I saw you do. I witness you do not even just football, basketball, academics. You change my academics, you know, my academic trajectory just from a phrase.
[00:09:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:42] Speaker A: You know, so. And we'll tap into that, too. But, yeah, you right, bro.
You played quarterback all your life. It's up until 9th grade, you said, right?
[00:09:53] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
My very first year playing youth league football, I was on the offensive line. My very first year, I was six years old. Just that picture everybody see with Tyrell and Justin and AC and all of them, they was already eight. I was six. That was my first year playing. I played on the line that year.
And I shout out, coach Sanders.
He in my top list of my greatest coaches ever.
And he influenced a lot of our life. Like, at that time, a lot of people can vouch for him. He had saw something in me, and he knew that I could catch the ball because I was already catching the NFL ball. I had balls. NFL balls and stuff like that. Paul's like, yeah. And Dan gone.
They used to have this play called the center pass. I never. I still remember it. He used to always do that.
But long story short, he started letting me do it, like, you know, and I used to catch that jump and that play. Like, me and Tyrell had a famous touchdown pass in the playoffs. Even that young, when I was like five or six years old and was in the wild card playing against a team from West Florence. And Tyrell put this on Facebook before, and I was impressed that he had remembered that.
But we ran like a downing in, and I was like six.
And I mean, I went up in Boston and took it to the house. They were just like, what the mess?
I was like, yeah, I can play.
And from after that, he said, you're gonna be my quarterback next year. Coach Sanders said, so from that next year, when I was seven, I was like six or seven. I had like two more years with flag. I played quarterback from that year all the way up till my 9th grade year of high school. And in mind you, my middle school year in 8th grade, I played JV. And I was the starting quarterback at Wilson and we changed that program around. Far from a JV standing. JV had a losing culture at Wilson. Wilson JV.
We had a special squad that year and I just toot my own horn, though. But it started with the quarterback and what impressed everybody. I was in the 8th grade. I was young, you know, and we'll talk about that.
[00:12:29] Speaker A: You was in the 8th grade playing JV?
[00:12:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:31] Speaker A: Oh, word.
[00:12:31] Speaker B: I started at. And I was a starting point guard for basketball my 8th grade. I ain't played with my age group since I was like eleven years old. All my peers vouched for that. Like, I don't cap on nothing. Like, they all like, tell you, like, since I think when I was like eleven, Rocky was like this basketball though.
Like. No, I played up and it wasn't cause I was big. Usually kids do that when they big, when they the biggest. I was just skillful. Yeah, but with JV, how that team came in and we had a lot of dogs on our team that year. But it went from like, JV would never win games. They win like one or two games that year. We only lost one game.
We would have won the game. We lost. We lost to Dylan that year, bro.
[00:13:29] Speaker A: How you remember this stuff, bro?
[00:13:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I got an elephant memory too.
[00:13:33] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, bro.
[00:13:35] Speaker B: It's just so much, bro. Like, we gotta start doing this on the weekly or something, bro. So much I wanna ask you, bro.
[00:13:41] Speaker A: We gonna build, bro.
[00:13:41] Speaker B: Cause you a legend in itself.
[00:13:43] Speaker A: Like, so this is what we here for. We can start right now. Like I said, philosophy talks, bro.
It's just me giving people the opportunity to tell their story, ask whatever question. It's a conversation, bro. We do this. You know what I'm saying? We do this. So whatever it is that you feel like is on your mind or your heart and you want the world to know.
[00:14:06] Speaker B: Then, like you say, you got me thinking now, like, about my childhood and how I was brought up like the mama that I had. I had a perfect mama to be like the child that I was. She was always into like, being a teen mom and making sure I was looking nice and fresh. I had the haircuts and the gear and like, I would look to par. She was always there, like.
And she was recording my games, like in flag and stuff like that. She was recording. And that was one of my most prized possessions, like them tapes. But they lost somewhere right now. But this was like flag stuff like that.
[00:14:49] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. So, okay, so getting up into the. To the 9th grade, you end up going to playing receiver and we gonna get on some life stuff after football, but you end up transitioning to wide receiver. What was that transition for you? Like?
[00:15:07] Speaker B: It was. It was. It was way easier than I thought it would be.
[00:15:12] Speaker A: Or just the position when it started out.
[00:15:15] Speaker B: Yeah, well, okay. Like on the high school level. Yeah, it was way easier than what I thought it would be. When I say on the high school level, I was just ahead on high school now. When I got to college, I realized that I wasn't well coached on being like a college wide receiver. The development of the technique of being a receiver. I didn't know about all the different releases, the release packages. I know how to read coverages and all that, but it's release packages stemming. Somebody on the route space released. We ain't never heard nothing. Nobody taught us about none of that, really get off the line and all of that get by the minute. Like. Yeah, so I learned. I realized that. I learned that quickly when I got to college.
But on a high school level, it was just natural ability.
And it all happened by accident.
Like me playing receiver. Oh, it happened by accident?
[00:16:16] Speaker A: How was it an accident? What you mean?
[00:16:19] Speaker B: Like, all right, so you know how we do seven on seven in the spring?
[00:16:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:23] Speaker B: Yep. So I was still.
I was still playing jv and stuff. Cause I remember I was twelve years old. I was 1212.
[00:16:32] Speaker A: Yeah, I was twelve playing jV.
[00:16:34] Speaker B: Cause I remember after one practice and then people that was there can vouch for that man. Like this. What I mean, it was different. Like, I did one practice and we all taking our knee practice over page was stand up. Made me stand up.
Tell them how old you is. You know what I'm saying? I'm twelve. I feel uncomfortable because I didn't. I don't toot my horn like that.
[00:16:56] Speaker A: You with some. You know what I'm saying? Damn.
[00:16:58] Speaker B: This ain't like. But I was, I was doing like the d one then I was doing the first team offense. I was just doing them in on seven. On seven. Cause it was like, this was the first team offense. And you know how we just. You put scout team receivers in and they was like, neat, get in that receiver. You know what I'm saying? And they were just like, bomb, bomb, bing, seam, five corner. Like, you know, all of that. They were just like, what?
Yeah.
[00:17:24] Speaker A: Coach was like at twelve though, bro. Yeah, that's crazy.
[00:17:28] Speaker B: And then the funny thing, like. Cause I'll never forget this. We was walking back to the locker room and Nick Mudro, Dominique Mudro, he was like, how old you is, man, for real.
Can you believe that? Yeah, that was like twelve, man. He was like, you a twelve lie. But he knew I was twelve though. Cause tip was one of our coaches. His pop shout out to coach tip. For real though, like, yeah, but like, this is a true story. And like, so when they saw that, they was like, he can play receiver, you know what I'm saying? And like we was kind of, we had a shortage at receiver, like during that time, believe it or not, like in Wilson history. Like we had like a little shortage that year, you know what I'm saying? And like I shout out to, I'm skipping a little bit, but shout out to Wali, that one. Wali stepped it up all the way. Like after that, like Wali became the number one guy. Like I ran the slot, but like coach page was challenging them. Coach page was like, our best receiver ain't even in high school yet. You know what I'm saying? Shit like that to them.
You know what I'm saying? That's how he was coming at him. And like, so we had Tyrell and Brandon, you know what I'm saying?
[00:18:40] Speaker A: Quarterback.
[00:18:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
So I just felt like it'd be better for the team. Like I'd be a better, like if they played quarterback, I'd be better at receiver, the team would be stronger, say, if I fought them for quarterback or if I just been a backup quarterback and not play receiver, I'm just a backup quarterback on the bench. Like that gonna hurt the team. And if I did start that quarterback, like what Brandon and Tyrell gonna play, you know what I'm saying? No shout out to them, but like, they was meant to be the quarterback during that time.
That's how I looked at it. So it made it easy for me to just line up in the slot and do my thing there and I got love, like, you know what I'm saying? Playing in the slot, right. I just regret that I couldn't get the ball as much. Cause I went from touching the ball every play, playing football. So football did kinda, I lost interest in football once I started playing wide receiver. Like, I ain't gonna lie, like, I just. Cause, like, it ain't like being a point guard in basketball.
Like being a quarterback is like being a point guard.
[00:19:39] Speaker A: Yeah. What, you killed it on the basketball court too, man. That's what I'm saying. You so dynamic. So what about, what about, we talked about football? What about basketball, bro? Cause you, you were great coming through Wilson in basketball too. You hold, I'm sure you hold records in basketball at Wilson?
[00:19:59] Speaker B: I think so. I think so.
[00:20:00] Speaker A: And without a doubt, I thought about.
[00:20:03] Speaker B: This one day, though. I thought about this. Cause I say okay now. Cause I started from my 9th grade year to my senior year.
Yeah.
[00:20:12] Speaker A: Where.
[00:20:12] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like my 9th grade year, I probably averaged like eight, you know what I'm saying? And my sophomore year, I probably averaged like eleven.
You know what I'm saying? My junior and senior year, I averaged 20 plus. You know what I'm saying? Ain't nobody else did that. You know what I'm saying?
[00:20:28] Speaker A: We need the record books.
[00:20:30] Speaker B: That what I'm saying. We ain't really. We weren't really into the record books like that at our school.
[00:20:35] Speaker A: They gotta have documented, though. You think?
[00:20:37] Speaker B: I think so.
[00:20:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:38] Speaker B: I would hope so. But who would say we will find him? Like, where would we find them at? Or whatever.
[00:20:42] Speaker A: If anybody watching this, when I just.
[00:20:44] Speaker B: Thought about it, like, I was just like, damn. Like, you know, our games played nonetheless.
Youngin coming up now, he gonna play more games than me. Cause he been starting since the 8th grade.
[00:20:56] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, true, true. Yeah, true, true.
[00:20:57] Speaker B: He gonna play more games than me, right. At least what minutes played or something like that. I gotta be up there.
[00:21:03] Speaker A: I would be interested in knowing, you know, if anybody watching this, man, any coach, anybody that was on, you know, any of the staff or something, if y'all have any records or a way that we can figure out these records, man. And. Cause I feel like that's a part of people legacy. Like, that's something that our children will probably like to see and it'll change their whole mindset on us as a person, you know, when they. When you. When you. When. When Wilson is the city for real, you can shut Wilson down during the whole city shut down during homecoming and you hold a record at that school.
I mean, it allow. I feel like it allow kids to dream big. And I. The one thing that I don't want to happen is.
And that I see sometimes is sometimes, like organizations be waiting to people old and disconnected from the youth to give them their flowers. But if you can do it earlier, the youth will be more receptive to that person, that individual. And then we can change the mindsets, you know, while we still young, you know? And it ain't about to me, it ain't about the recognition. It's about the impact, the boost in. It's like your impact could be on steroids because now you recognize as a legend for real in writing.
[00:22:25] Speaker B: I appreciate that, bro.
That's what I like, about this right here, this right here is the platform right here to do what you just said, to give everybody that chance to speak on their legacy and get their flowers.
Cause we got so many.
[00:22:42] Speaker A: We got a lot about that. That's under the.
[00:22:45] Speaker B: Yeah, under before us. You see? And that's another thing, too. Like, I had a lot of inspiration, like I said, like, just, like, coming up. All right? Like, I've been on the sideline at Wilson since I've been in, like, the second grade, like, on football, because I've been, like, the little ball boy.
[00:23:02] Speaker A: Right, right.
[00:23:04] Speaker B: So, like, that, too, helped me out with the program a little bit. Bit. Like.
Cause I ain't knew it at the time, but just to go back a little bit on, like, football, like, or whatever. Cause, you know, like, shout out to coach page. Like, he one of the greatest motivators, one of the greatest coaches, too. One of the greatest, like, human beings. Like, yeah, in my life. But I knew the plays, bro. I knew the plays, like, young. Yeah, I knew the plays when I was in, like, middle school. I knew what seven x was. I knew what Tiger was and all of that, because, you know, I was right there.
[00:23:44] Speaker A: Right.
[00:23:45] Speaker B: And so I had, like, an advantage on that, too, that was allowed me to be able to be more advanced. It was just a blessing. I don't even know how I ended up being a ball boy. My aunt just took me out to the game or something, and somehow I ended up on the sideline.
[00:24:02] Speaker A: Now, you was probably dogging people.
You know how people used to play football outside of the game and shoot, you was probably eating people up or something.
[00:24:12] Speaker B: I don't even know how I ended up, but even Dominique Mudro, like, shout out, Dominique. Part of my name came up. This is 2nd, 3rd time. He the one that was, like, mentoring me.
[00:24:24] Speaker A: Word.
[00:24:25] Speaker B: So me and Dominique got a different, unique relationship. Like, I used to spend the night with him growing up.
[00:24:31] Speaker A: What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna get, like, a couple of the players, and we gonna all have just a discussion recorded, you know, for the show. So that's coming up. I just thought about that.
So, yeah, we definitely gonna do that. But one thing that you, like, it seemed like you pick up on stuff. One thing that I know about you is your mind is different, bro. Like, I feel like you simplify things, like, complex things you make simple. Like, one of the things I said earlier, you changed my life, and I never forget you.
I watched you and J Dubb walk across the stage for the national honor Society in school.
I was sitting in the thing, and I was just observing, and I was like, yo, it's kind of cool that they getting. This is like a pep rally for academics. And afterward, when I realized what that was, I asked you, we was in the bathroom. You was in one stall, I was in the other. And I was just like, man, I'm just asking. And I was like, bro, how you get to do that?
And you simply. You just like, bro, just do all your work.
[00:25:40] Speaker B: Just do the work.
When I was like, I couldn't believe, like, it was like that.
I guess it wasn't cool to be smart, like before, like, at a certain point. Nah, for real, though, like, you know what I'm saying? I feel like it was people before me. I know for sure. But as far as, like, you know, our era and our time, like, you know, I was an example of, like, yo, make your grades because this is a better look for you. It looked better. It feel better. I thought it was like, yeah, better. Like, make better grades.
[00:26:26] Speaker A: I felt that doing it on the.
[00:26:28] Speaker B: Field, in the sports, and you killing it in the classroom. Like, no lie king. You know what I'm saying?
[00:26:35] Speaker A: No lie, bro.
[00:26:36] Speaker B: I got treatment for that, man. I got an advantage. People don't know some of the stuff. Like, we'll get into that in the future. We'll get into, like, Wilson's greatest tales or something. Like, Wilson's, you know, your greatest little secrets or tales or something, bro.
[00:26:51] Speaker A: Like, people stuff that people just can't even imagine.
From that day, though, from that day, I did that, bro. And crazy to say, I walked across that same stage, bro, I was national honor society. The same one that you was in from that conversation. Cause I was like, I want no Df students. I was kind of like an average student, but I went and given. I went and giving my best, you know? But from that day, I just started doing every turning in everything. And when I realized by me turning in everything, I couldn't half do it, so I would do it to the best of my ability doing it.
And I made honor society in college, I did the same thing. I made international honor society. So. And people always say, used to think that I was smart. And every time, bro, I give you credit. Like, bro, Dominique Henry changed my whole mindset just by one sentence, you know, that planted that seed that now people think I'm smart. But, bro, I be having to read multiple times to gain an understanding. I have to read books twice, you know? Cause I feel like it's like a movie, right? Like, you watch a movie, and then the second time you watch it, you pick up on different stuff. Imagine what a book is and you reading words, you know, you gonna pick up other stuff. So. So life after that, bro, you went to South Carolina state, man. And you, I don't think you actually were able to accomplish what you wanted to accomplish as far as athletics, at least maybe. So as far as athletics after college. So what? So what? Tell us the story behind that and what you felt and learned from that experience.
[00:28:35] Speaker B: I lost focus at South Carolina State. Like, I lost focus. I ain't had no discipline. And looking back at it, not to make no excuses. I don't like to make excuses, but I just, like, I had lacked mentorship, you know, and that go back all the way from high school and middle school and stuff, too. Like, I was. I have. I was. I had a lot of freedom outside of sports, you know, I was raised by my mom and my grandmama, and they work. So I come up from school and I'm by myself. So that meant that I feel like that's why I won a state championship in high school and why I didn't. Not to say I was supposed to make it to the league, which is why I'm not recognized as much at Sacramento State as I was supposed to. Cause I ain't. I ain't put in the work. And life is like that. You can't cheat life.
That what I want to teach the kids and like, that what God is. And life is. You just it fair game, like, you gonna get in what you put out, and I didn't put in the work to succeed at that level of college football, you know what I'm saying? I mean, I got time. I didn't real shirt, I played my freshman year, like, you know, but I didn't do my thing for my standards, you know what I'm saying?
[00:30:03] Speaker A: That's exactly why you said something. And I wanna get into it while we got some time. You talk about life, bro, and I think that's the part your mind and us having conversations is probably the part that people don't know fully how. How you think, you know what I'm saying? So, so what, what is life about to you? We're going to get into some deeper, a little bit deeper right now. Um, what. What is, like, what is life about to you?
[00:30:27] Speaker B: Life, um, it hard to even put in the words. You know how some people say you can't put love into words, or I ain't got enough words that describe how I love you, you know? I can't describe what life is, you know, but just the level that I'm at right now. I realized that this the greatest gift, like, that where I serve the most high, like, I just call it the most high, whatever it was that created, like, we here, like, you know, and then I don't know what happened when we perish, like, when we die, but I know that, like, I'm here right now, like, this the time. And, like, when I put all that into realization, it made me realize that life is the most precious gift. It's a beautiful dream. Like, it's as sweet as you make it. So I want to make the best of my life now.
I say all that to say, damn you don't spark a nerve. Now. See, I say all that to say, like, I learned how to not trip off of stuff and not to chase things and how to have peace and what's meant for me and how to handle stress and what I would call my failures and all that. That was a mentality, just lessons, shift my philosophy to, like, lessons and blessings and how doors opened up, bro. Like, how you came in my life at that time, like, when you reintroduced back into my life, that was, like, one of the lowest points of my life.
But when I look back and pinpoint that that was the shift because I love you, bro. You know, and we was able to have these certain conversations, like, shout out to Wyatt. Wyatt knew it. I think. Wyatt, the one that probably told you to come see me, to call you.
[00:32:30] Speaker A: Shout out to Wyatt.
[00:32:31] Speaker B: Yeah. And you came and used to come see me in village Creek, used to pull up on me, and that was when I was really going through it, you know, and looking back at it now I'm looking at it like, okay, this is just my life. Like, and this was meant to be. And this was the purpose of my life for whatever come to be next. It just basically, what I'm saying is it changed my perspective.
[00:33:02] Speaker A: And I think that's usually what happens, man, because honestly, bro, and I don't think we ever really talk about it while you were going through that low point in your life, bro, and I was, we met, like, I never saw you at a low point. Like, I always saw you the same person that I looked up to, you know what I'm saying? Even at your low point. And I think that's what that was the, we used to sit and have regular con. You was at a low point, and we was having high level conversations, you know what I mean? And I never seen you, like, complain to a point to where it was. Cause sometimes somebody else low point can bring you down. Every time I left you, I felt elevated just from the conversation.
[00:33:59] Speaker B: I appreciate that. I appreciate that.
[00:34:00] Speaker A: And I know you felt it, you know, cause the excitement. But we used to talk for hours, you know, just about real deep, deep stuff.
But I never saw you, even though you were at a low point. It's like I never saw your low point. Cause I was always seeing you higher, you know?
[00:34:19] Speaker B: I'm gonna speak on that. See, like that. Go back to I was telling you about how. How it all started from the beginning. See, like, I always had favor in my life and my perspective allowed me to see that. Because while I was going through what I was going through, I was able to see and even be around, be around people that was going through worst.
Even when I was going through what I was going through, it was people that needed me at the time and I would give, you know, stuff and put me in critical positions. Cause I'm giving just because that who I am, and it is better to give, you know? But I just know that, like, their situation was more difficult than mine. I ain't that selfish. I ain't selfish at all. I like to pass the ball like, I like to throw the ball like I'm a people's person. So even during then, like, I realized, like, during my roughest time, like, I always had favorites, you know? And I got cousins and best friends that still in prison, did ten to 15 years and come out and got restaurants and doing things or handling business and stuff like that. So I'm like, I can't be complaining, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I still eat Zaxby's every day. What if I want that? The worst thing I eat probably, like, Zaxby's or something. Like, so I'm eating good. Like, I'm still blessed, like, but that ain't nothing. That ain't. That ain't me. I got the people around me and the people that God put in my life and just the aura that God, that most high, put in me. And I don't take that for granted.
[00:36:03] Speaker A: Right.
So what's one of the lessons from what you considered a failure, what's one of the lessons you feel like you learned that you probably carry with you for the rest of your existence?
[00:36:22] Speaker B: All right, so.
Yeah, and we beating around the bush a lot. So I was talking about South Carolina state, and, like, I was telling you just how I didn't put in the work.
[00:36:33] Speaker A: Right?
[00:36:35] Speaker B: So another big part of what happened at South Carolina State, too, was I had a chance to play basketball also. If I had a chance to, like, literally make history, I could have probably. I probably would have started my freshman year. Like, you know, I would have been better. I'm better than what they thought I was. You know what I'm saying?
[00:36:55] Speaker A: Dang, I ain't never know. I ain't know that.
[00:36:58] Speaker B: So once the football season had ended, you know, I wasn't used to that kind of grind.
Like, in football practice at South Carolina State, like, it wasn't tough. Football practice at state was actually easier than at Wilson. But when you add in classes and study hall and practice, then treatment and then meetings and then games, Thanksgiving, you playing games and all of that. So when the season was over, I wanted a break.
I wanted to. I lied to myself and told myself I was like, I wanted to be a regular college student, you know? My mom was on the phone, like, Nick, are you serious? Like, I think you should play basketball. I was like, Mama, like, it was like, I think it might have been like Christmas break or something. Coming up, football season was over. Yeah. So, like, you know, it'd be like Christmas break when New Year's bowl was coming up, and they was like, you know, I had to stay. Like, basketball was kind of getting right in the form, and I ain't wanted to do it.
I'd be like, if I would have put in that work and pushed myself, or, like, if I would have had my dad, like, somebody just to push me, like some male influence. Like, I ain't had no male influences in my life.
And I started doing all the wrong things.
We had that free time, like, that idle time. That is the devil's playground. Like, that's something like the old people say. Old people be real about what they say and shit. Like, see, when I had that idle time, when I got that free time being a college student at South Carolina State and shit like that, in the party school, first time, getting, like, a refund check. I'm from the hood. I'm flipping, boy, I got some racks. I had life scholarship, Pell Grant.
I got more than an average student. Cause all my grades and stuff, I felt like a damn trap king and shit. That's South Carolina state, man.
I didn't even focus on football really after that, to be honest. My main focus was just, like, I was lost. Like, I ain't had no main focus.
So that was one of my biggest regrets to what you say or what I could change. I would say, like, stay locked in, but people need people in their life to keep them locked in.
[00:39:26] Speaker A: I agree with you, bro. I agree with you.
[00:39:28] Speaker B: That mentorship, a father, a brother, a friend, guidance wife, a husband, something, a girlfriend. I had a girlfriend. I had no love, really, at that time. I was away from my mom and my grandma. They work, so I'm on my own. They just trusted me to do the right thing, and they respected my decision to not play basketball my freshman year at South Carolina State.
That changed my life.
That's my first year of my life not being on a basketball team, you know what I'm saying? Probably led me to a depression without me knowing. It did lead me into a depression without me knowing, you know what I'm saying?
[00:40:07] Speaker A: Dang, bro. I appreciate you sharing that, bro. That's new. I did not know that, bro.
I did not know that. So, yeah, so you. That was your. So you would have been a first time dual sport football basketball athlete?
[00:40:24] Speaker B: I think I would have history, bro. Like, you know, God showed it. I done dreamed about it, you know what I'm saying? So I know I would have made history. Like, I would have already, like, yeah, like, I would have. I would have made history. Like, Wilson and South Carolina state already got, like, a relationship. Like, my aunt played band, played for the band at South Carolina state, and she got so much South Carolina state memorabilia at her little apartment when I was growing up and I used to spend the night with her, like, her stuff, and then I end up, like, going there. She's coming to all the games.
She a teacher at Wilson? Yeah, yeah, she got a gangs and she went there and, like, yeah. Like, if I would have took it serious.
Yeah, I would have played the most games. I would have started football. I would have. I would have set records on point returns and basketball. We would have won the MIAC probably every year. And we out of played on tv in the NCAA tournament. I probably got a chance to, like, upset, like, Kentucky or like, duke or something. Like, I would have a chance to do that. Like, I don't dream about that before. I dreamed about that catching fire against, like, Kentucky or something.
[00:41:39] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:41:40] Speaker B: Like, back in my hooping days when.
[00:41:41] Speaker A: I was like, hooping and shit, man, that would have been about that. That would have been. Well, you said, well, I believe dreams are. That's an. It's an experience. So even though you didn't have, like you said earlier, I'm a believer that we live in a dream right now. For real. Like, I feel like when we. When we pass, we gonna wake up and we gonna be like, bro, that was a. How long was I asleep? You know, like, that. That was a dream. Felt real crazy. Yeah, the dream felt real. So I feel like you got the experience that. But what. What's been on? What's one thing that you feel like you wish people knew about you?
[00:42:31] Speaker B: Let me see if I had to put it to one thing. Like, just that I'm like, really, I don't care. So it kind of hard for me to, like, answer that question. Like, you know what I'm saying? Not to sound like closed doors or whatever, like. But, like, it really don't matter to me. I mean, I just. I guess I want people to know that, like.
Like, it's all love with me. Like, I'm, like, I'm all love and I'm all honest.
[00:43:05] Speaker A: What's your mission, though? What's your, what's your. What's your life purpose you feel right now?
[00:43:11] Speaker B: At this point in my life, my purpose is to raise my children and just protect them, bless them. In this world right now, they already amazing and, like, doing great things. So I just want to protect them from, like, the wicked tree of the world, like, the lies of the world. Like, that's my purpose and my duty now. It's like, okay, God gave me these special children. So it's like that. My focus right there. It's my job as a father to teach them wisdom, give them strength and resilience. Cause they gonna go through shit in life. I just wanna be the best father like that. That my main thing. I ain't competing against nobody no more. And I ain't got no. I ain't doing, like, nothing that's stressing me. And people don't see me out or nothing like that. I'm happy. Like, I got peace in my life. Like, I be at the crib, so anybody, like, hit me up like this, what I like to do, I like for y'all to pull up on me, we come chill and have high level conversations like that. Like, I'm in the house, I'm chilling.
[00:44:19] Speaker A: We definitely be having a holiday.
[00:44:21] Speaker B: My mission, though, is just, like, I'm raising my children, man, and just.
And part of my life is a dream, and I done dreamed that I want my dream to come true. Seeing my children grow up.
For me to, like, be seeing my kids do things in life, you know, whatever my son do, I'm participating in his events or his job or his career, assisting him, helping him, like, he helping me, like, laughing with my son as he get older, like, watching my mama get older, like, watching you and I grow, like, that's my purpose. I'm into that kind of shit. Like, watching us grow, watching our children grow, like, learning shit. And they'll tell us what we might learn next month or next year. You know what I'm saying? That changed the course of our life and stuff. So I'm just waiting for the next update, and just my antennas up, and I'm awake.
[00:45:27] Speaker A: So if you felt like if you could be an expert at anything, what would you want to be an expert in?
[00:45:38] Speaker B: Sound kind of vague, I get, but life. I am a life expert from the best I know it. Like, I'm a life expert.
Yeah, we take this shit too serious. Like, we take life a lot too serious. But, like, life about pain and struggle. That's what life. About. Overcoming it, though. It's a beautiful struggle. That's what I like that phrase I heard that always stuck in my heart, the beautiful struggle that life is. And, like, damn, we got it the easiest out of damn near all of our ancestors and stuff. You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, it's a life expert. And it's an agent of peace and love.
[00:46:26] Speaker A: Yo, man, I agree with you, bro.
I told myself. Cause I asked myself that same question, and I say, I always call myself a student of life. Like, when people ask me, who are you? You know, I'm a student. You know, like, I'm a student and my name is Antwan, you know, I'm a student of this life, bro. Yeah. Because I feel like you're not supposed to get life right because this is our first time, you know, this is our first time in this particular existence that we can remember. So anything that you do for the first time, unless you just strike luck, like, you learning it, right. So if you.
Even if you strike luck, you still learn it. So don't.
[00:47:12] Speaker B: It's gonna be some error.
[00:47:14] Speaker A: It has to be. It has to be. But like you said, you gotta be able to overcome it, right?
[00:47:19] Speaker B: Learn from it.
[00:47:20] Speaker A: Exactly. And I think we put a lot of pressure on ourselves about getting life right. And I feel like that's a part of. One of the major stressors on this earth is getting your first time experience at life. Right, bro?
[00:47:34] Speaker B: No, you hit something. See, now what you say right there made me think about it, too. Cause, like. Okay, I like your perspective, too, because you said we put a lot of pressure on ourselves.
And then let's go back to the five y theory. I got a philosophy called the five y theory, and I don't know how this came to be.
But if somebody was using this before me, let me know. You know what I'm saying? But, like, I'd be like, why? Like, why we put so much pressure on ourselves and really it be other people.
Like, peer pressure is a motherfucker, even for adults. And, like, soon as you fail or make a mistake, people love to clown you or to highlight your mistakes. Shit gets shared 30, 40 times, they gonna clown you. And so that puts you on eggshells and make you want to be perfect and make you want to hide your flaws like that. Make you want to not be honest. And it's like we all doing it to each other. Like, we all gotta. We need better leadership.
We need better voices out here to help people understand that right there. So we can all stop doing that to each other.
[00:48:43] Speaker A: Yep. Because if we doing it to each other, we doing it to ourselves. You know what I'm saying? We creating that to bounce back on us. One of the things, I watched that movie, book of Clarence, and it's about the Bible, and I gotta watch that, too.
[00:49:00] Speaker B: I always wanted to see the book of Clarence.
[00:49:02] Speaker A: It's on Netflix. It's on Netflix now. But one of the lines that's in the Bible, and they said in the movie was, let he without sin cast the first stone. And when I heard, I heard it before throughout my life. But while I was watching the movie and seeing a picture of people stoning somebody, and he just stopped the stone and he started pointing out, like, you do this, you do this. You know what I'm saying? What you doing? Stoning this person for this and you do this.
[00:49:33] Speaker B: That's exactly how people learn nowadays. Highlight everybody else flaws and, like, right? Like, it's hypocritical. It's hypocrisy. Like, God don't like hypocrisy. Like that what it is, like. And that come from the heart. Like, people do that. Cause they really hurt. Like, I wanna heal people. The God in us be hurting, man. Like, we stone people and shit like that. Cause they was hurt. And the main people that bash people and try to highlight somebody flaws on social media, they really be the hurt ones, right? Like successful people, we try to help people and look out for shit.
[00:50:06] Speaker A: I agree with you, bro.
[00:50:08] Speaker B: That would the heel do. So, like I say, like, nowadays, people, they'll laugh at you before they help you. Right now, most, the majority, like, even if it feel that shit, from what I see, it's like, but I ain't like that. Like, I'm always trying. You'll never see me clowning people when I was going through my hardship. You'll never see me making no damn post of sorrow on Facebook or crying out about what I'm going through or how this happened with my family, whatever. Like you know, it's just within, like I live within you know, like all that other shit. People, they're trying to impress everybody else. It really is for other people whether they want to admit it or not. The majority of it, you know what I'm saying?
[00:50:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I definitely agree with you, man. That's, that's. So we, we bout to, we about to wrap it up, man. And anything that you got on your mind or your heart you have the space to share with the world right now, bro. Like any messages?
[00:51:04] Speaker B: Let me go through my little. Hold on. Cause you know, bro I gotta sit down and talk to you one day and ask you some questions.
[00:51:09] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:51:10] Speaker B: But just before we wrap up this is something I was curious about because you one of the best running backs in Woodson High school history and Woodson and Don had a stable of running backs so for you to be in the top. But none of them, none of them never really went d one right though we brought that up. So like how do you feel personally about having the career that you had at Wilson and your career after, after Wilson, man?
[00:51:51] Speaker A: So I don't, honestly, bro I don't understand it. Like I don't understand.
I bumped into coach page and he was telling me about the record that I have as far as rushing yards. 6000 rushing yards. I think he said between 5800 6000 rushing yards. Closest that the career, that's Wilson history. Career rushing record.
The closest second was 4000.
[00:52:21] Speaker B: So you, you started your freshman year too?
[00:52:23] Speaker A: I played. I didn't. I started a couple games. Cause I had, we had Dre Haynes. I mean Dre Thomas. Thomas. Yeah.
[00:52:33] Speaker B: Okay. I remember that year. So that was like my junior year I think.
[00:52:36] Speaker A: Yeah. So I played but I didn't start. I have some, I had some starting games but then the next year I.
[00:52:43] Speaker B: Started 6000 yards for a career in high school, bro.
[00:52:47] Speaker A: That is first three time all zone on the zone team. I got on the zone team as a sophomore so I was the first 1st player to ever get three time you know be on the zone team three times.
So. But after like not going d one fucked me up, bro.
Like not going d one kind of messed up my whole how I thought my life was going to be you know like just off of just having fun you know and like having a family. I'm the oldest of five.
And having seen my mom having to work the way that she did and me having to be, like, the father figure of the house, young, and I'm thinking, man, bro, I can go play on tv and. And it's gonna change my life at home, but I ain't have no offers, like, out of school. So I never really understood it. And like, we were discussing earlier, like, the greatness that people saw in me or see in me when it come to sports and stuff like that, I never saw it because I've never done anything that I desired to do when it came to football. Like, I never experienced going to that big school.
I just never understood it, bro, you know, so. So I never felt great. And, like, a lot of the stuff that people see now, and they tell me, man, you doing great. You doing this, you doing that. I can't feel it, you know, because I've heard that all of my life, and nothing came of it. And as far as that, now, everything that's happened, I know it happened because it was supposed to. Like, that's my understanding now. But when I reflect it, John Williams has sent me a post that he had posted a couple months ago, and it was a highlight. And, you know, like, when you looking at film in high school or even in college, like, you always listening with the sound off. So he sent me two years. No, a couple months ago, maybe two months ago, he sent me a highlight of me, and that was the first time I ever heard people cheering for me, bro. And I broke out crying, like, two months ago.
[00:55:04] Speaker B: It can get you like that. Sometimes you kind of realize how impactful the moments was, right? Kind of like, get you some time.
[00:55:15] Speaker A: Cause, you know, you don't ever get to hear it when you on the court or on the floor. You don't hear that. You know what I'm saying? You just zoned into what's going on. So I never heard nobody cheer for me, bro, until two months ago. And I couldn't believe it. I was like, bro, like, people, like, screaming at something that I'm doing on the field, just reacting, you know what I'm saying? Like, I ain't even. What was I thinking at this moment, you know?
[00:55:41] Speaker B: You made me think about something, too, bro. One time we was playing enough Myrtle beach, yo. And I scored a little touchdown on a little seam, and we scored, and we was kind of jumping up and down, and Dane, Hamrick, Dane, like, I remember he was right in my face.
He was like. He was slapping me on a helmet. I was just jumping around but I guess he could see the look in my face. I was just. I had, like, a regular look. He was like, smile or do something. Like, I was jumping.
He never really got that excited about it, neither. Like, he was just. I don't know, bro. It was just something.
[00:56:14] Speaker A: I don't know.
[00:56:15] Speaker B: Like, maybe we was looking for something else or something more. Something greater.
[00:56:19] Speaker A: I think it was just so natural for us, bro. Like, it was very natural thing. And sometimes when you got a gift, it's like a spoil child. Like, God will bless you with. Or the creator will bless you with this gift, and you, like a spoiled child that you don't even recognize it. Like, other people see it. Like, it'd be like, bro, you got everything you need, bro. Like, what's wrong with you? Like, other people see it, but you want something else, though, you know? So when you got a gift and that's been given to you, yeah, you.
[00:56:52] Speaker B: Looking outside for and see, like. And then this how society play us, too. This is something else I realize about life and the heaven that we rule. Like, we all in heaven. Like, we live in a dream. Cause I'm like, everybody got a gift that just as impactful as mine was. See, mine just happened to be football. And I live in America, so that shit, like a religion. Like, they worship football and shit. But, like, say, if somebody can drag those people in my class who, like, they can color real good, it'd always be like, one person in the class who, when they color, you can be like, damn, that shit ain't got no streaks in it.
[00:57:25] Speaker A: Exactly the outline.
[00:57:27] Speaker B: You be like, what the f. Like, you can make more money than the football player. Yeah, for real, though, it'd be somebody who can sing. It'd be somebody who can cook. Somebody that good at, like, mechanic stuff. And I'd be like, all this is what we need to make the village work. We need the entertainment. We need to help people. We need the cooks. So I'm like, everybody got their gifts. I'm like, so many of us just chasing other shit instead of just focusing on our gift.
Parents seeing your child's gift and just, like, just nurturing them up on a.
[00:58:01] Speaker A: Gift, it's hard to see, though. So one thing that helped me, bro, is I used to ask people, like, man, if you had what you see that I have, what would you do? You know what I'm saying? Just so I could see what they perspective. Cause, like, so if you could sing and you would have asked me that question, I'd be like, bro, I'll be going to try to audition someplace. You know, American Idol or something.
[00:58:22] Speaker B: It's easy to say what you did.
[00:58:24] Speaker A: If you were somebody else. But you can't see your own joke.
[00:58:27] Speaker B: You don't know what to do.
You can do that. Motherfucker be telling me all kind of shit.
[00:58:33] Speaker A: You can get a camp, you can get a business. You can do all this. Like, what you doing with your talent.
[00:58:39] Speaker B: But, girl, you get a restaurant, you can do a hair, right?
[00:58:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:58:44] Speaker B: We always be like.
[00:58:46] Speaker A: We do see the gifts in people and other people.
[00:58:48] Speaker B: And then they do feel good when you see people step into their gift.
Thrive. Cause it take courage, man. That be the main thing. Like, that's what I'm saying about this world. We talk about that later. Like, this shit a dream, man. And it is like a dark force, like an opposition, kind of like take away your dream. Like your light. Like, your light got it. Your life got a natural purpose. But the world, like a game. Shit got obstacles that we try to, like, block you from it.
[00:59:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:59:15] Speaker B: And, like, you got handlers and shit that we trying to, like, not even say they trying to. But it's like the way the game's set up, it ain't gonna be easy. You gonna have to, like, maneuver through all the damn bullshit. It gonna be hard. Like, you gonna think it can't happen.
[00:59:30] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying, bro? One thing that, like, I be going like this. You know how the VR games and stuff like that, you looking through these goggles and the first thing you do usually is look. Look at your hands, you know, like. But if you really think about it. And this. What makes me. Helps me create, bro, is it's a game, you know, like, this is a VR game. And I'm looking at my hands and I can. I don't have to put hit a to turn my hands around. I could just do it.
[01:00:01] Speaker B: Best game ever, right?
[01:00:03] Speaker A: So if you able to move and put the pieces together for what it is that you desire because it's out there, you know? And you play the game, you know, and you look at every day like my, like Super Mario. I use this reference, the Super Mario brother game. He had a goal. They get princess. But the entire game, you overcoming obstacles, you know what I'm saying?
And then when you lose, you gotta start over. But when you get to that point again, you kinda like, all right, I know what to do now. I know he gonna do this.
[01:00:34] Speaker B: Some of that shit. You destined to fail. Some of you can't pass some of.
[01:00:37] Speaker A: Them boys on the first try, you feel me?
[01:00:39] Speaker B: Some of them boys, you got to make the mistake to know, like.
[01:00:42] Speaker A: Oh, exactly.
Yeah, but he had a goal, though, you know what I'm saying? So I feel like that's the lesson from that game that I learned, is to overcome these have a goal. Because if you got a goal, you can overcome. Exactly. You got a direction because you can move side to side, bro, and do a whole lot of moving, but don't move. No, you ain't making no progress. You just moving side to side. You running gases. You know what I'm saying? But if you, if you got a goal, no matter if you veer off, you got that. It's like a magnet. Like it can come back. It's easier to come back to, you know? But if you ain't got no goal, it's like a, what they say, like a boat without a sail, any wind is the right. The right way.
[01:01:25] Speaker B: That's a great analogy. Right. Without a sail or boat without a destination out there.
[01:01:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:01:33] Speaker B: You know, boat need to leave with a purpose.
[01:01:35] Speaker A: Exactly.
[01:01:36] Speaker B: Just kind of out there. You go, in a minute, you might end up in a good place, but you might.
[01:01:42] Speaker A: Exactly. So that, that ten year, that five years gonna come, bro.
[01:01:45] Speaker B: Right. That goal, like, goal and love, gold, love. Like, he wanted that shit so bad. Like I say, a goal or love really is something that you willing to really die for. You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying? I'm a die trying. Like, niggas that get rich and die wanted to get rich so bad.
Try. You got rich, too, you know what I'm saying?
What is rich? That's another conversation for another guy.
What is rich?
[01:02:13] Speaker A: And that's, those are conversations that I like because people, you be using words and then they don't. I have to, in order for me to properly sometimes ask a question, I have to ask the person, well, what does that mean to you? Because if you ask me a question, and we got two different definitions, I'm going to answer the question for me instead of answering your question.
[01:02:34] Speaker B: Right.
[01:02:34] Speaker A: You know I like that. Yeah. So, man, I love you too, bro.
But, yeah, this has been, this has been. We gonna have to continue this because the conversations that we have, bro, is, I feel like this is just an introduction to you because the conversation that we have, like, we started dabbling in a little bit towards the end of this episode, is the conversations that we be having. You know, it's always very fruitful. It's always very informative, a perspective, different perspectives. That we be open to and we be learning. So I definitely, definitely look forward to having you back on to continue this conversation and get into the depth of ourselves, bro. You know, I think that'd be a beautiful thing for the world to see. But I do definitely appreciate you for making the time to come today, man, and coming with the energy that you came with, that you always come with.
Congratulations on all everything that you accomplishing right now, bro. Congratulations on the peace that you found, you know, bro. Cause it's just amazing.
I empathize with your story. Cause I'm a part of it. And just to see and hear you say that you at peace, bro, it's like my heart got a hug. You know what I mean?
[01:04:00] Speaker B: Respect. I appreciate that, too, bro.
[01:04:03] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. So I'm always here for you, bro. You know, I'm a phone call away. And for the people, I like to thank y'all for tuning into this special, special occasion. I'm here with the Dominique Henry, one of my inspirations in my lifetime. So if you see me, you know that he was one of the guys that inspired the man that you see.
And we've been able to chop it up on philosophy talk podcast today. Well, philosophy talk show. Cause I told myself I don't want to do podcasts. I feel like podcasts is kind of like regular. It's a show.
[01:04:39] Speaker B: It's a show.
[01:04:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:04:41] Speaker B: It is more meaningful.
[01:04:43] Speaker A: Right, right. So, philosophy talk show, man, I appreciate you for coming. I always leave y'all with a word of inspiration. And today it's about focus. Like what you said earlier, it's about focus. And I want y'all to think about a magnifying glass.
If you have a plank of wood in the sun, the sun might dry that wood out. The sun might, you know, it'll help decompose that wood, but it'll take some time. But if you put a magnifying glass to focus that light onto a spot on that wood, it'll burn a hole through it. So for us, we are light. You know, we are created with light. Light is everything.
If we. We're able to focus ourselves on what it is that we desire, focus our minds on what it is that we want to achieve or accomplish, even overcome. If we able to focus our mind, we'll be able to burn a hole through that plank, man. And I feel like it's important for us to know that, because what I'm seeing is a lack of focus at a very, very high level. And I understand that all us got things that we want to accomplish. Some of us feel like it's just going to come, but if we focus, it's destined to come. This is how it's been created. But I want to thank y'all for tuning in today. I appreciate you tuning in again. Like share subscribe comment ask some questions because we gonna have them on again. So if you have any questions that you would like to be asked, ask some questions in the comment section. Again, thank you. This has been philosophy talk show. Peace and love to all y'all.
